10 Myths About Google Page Rank Busted
filed in Internet Business on Jun.25, 2008
No more secrets! There are innumerable theories and speculations about Google Page Rank. In the end no formula is good enough to predict the PR. Basically Page Rank is a value that characterizes how important a page is on the internet by counting how many votes (links) a page has from other pages.
However, the PR algorithm is very complicated. There is no doubt that the Algorithm also analyzes the page that gives the link. That’s why I’d like to present 10 myths about Google Page Rank to help you figuring out the best practice of gaining a high PR.
- Myth 1: If I buy an expired domain name with a high PR, Google will strip me of the PR next time I renew the domain name. False! If you retain the initial topic of the expired domain and at least partly keep the old file names and hierarchy (you can look it up on Archive.org BEFORE you buy an expired site) you will not lose your PR. It is uncertain whether G looks into WHOIS to detect a change of the owner but it is certain that you can keep the PR. Reason being that webmasters who have linked to the site are unlikely to remove a link if you keep the topic and your new site is of good quality.
- Myth 2: If I submit my site to hundreds of free directories and alternative search engines, I will soon get high PageRank.False! Approximately 99% of free online directories have no PR in their category/subcategory pages, hence no PageRank juice can be transferred to your site. If you keep submitting and get lucky, you will be PR1 on next PageRank update, providing you fail to execute other link building strategies. If you are unlucky or go too aggressive about submitting (i.e. link spamming) you will remain PR n/a (don’t mix with PR0).
- Myth 3: Once I am given a high Page Rank on a certain page, I can turn it into a link farm, under construction page or Adsense page.False! No way! Content is considered when assigning Page Rank. Don’t even try to prove me the opposite. I have based this assertion on real experiments.
- Myth 4: If I exchange links with many sites, I will get high PR.False! No, you won’t. If you want to go for reciprocal links, regard it as traffic exchange, because in most cases you will get no PR boost from reciprocal links. Site A votes for site B and the site B returns the vote for site A. Bang! The votes devalue each other.
- Myth 5: I have to avoiud linking to other sites because this way I will give away my link juice.False! You must link out to strong and established sites, especially if your site is new, it will show your relevancy and increase your credibility. In fact, there is a lot to gain linking to relevant and quality websites and lot to lose linking to bad neighbourhood and link farms. In fact, you can utterly damage your PR and drop from the SERPs if you do not research the sites you link to.
- Myth 6: It takes lots of backlinks to even dream about a high Page Rank.False! It is very common that a new, nicely built site having only one PR4 backlink from a relevant, established site through a correct, keyword rich anchor text, gains PR2 or even PR3 on next update. Although the aforementioned example is a result of my own experiment, it is extreme and you have to aim at more than one backlink. In fact, if you don’t keep building your links, you can lose Page Rank. Remember that a single PR4 backlink is much better than 10 PR1 links.
- Myth 7: My links page or directory category pages will never gain any Page Rank.False! Cheer up! There is a part of the algorithm that severely deals with link pages and directory subcategories (read the article about Directories Page Rank ), but you can easily outsmart the bot by using the Myth 5. Obvious link pages lose out on gaining Page Rank because G wants to cut link sale. That’s why you have to turn your link page into valuable content. Change the filename from links.php to my-keywords.php and mix the links into paragraphs of relevant and quality text. It works fantastically and you can still use an image button reading “links” because the bot cannot read an image. Just avoid using “links” in any anchor text links.
- Myth 8: Page Rank is totally useless.False! Although search engines usually don’t list the results sorted by PR, backlinks are a part of G ranking algorithm and because high Page Rank usually means many backlinks, you will eventually rank higher with a high PR site. Also high Page Rank means credibility, which makes life easier when it comes to networking, selling advertising space and trying to get into human edited directories.
- Myth 9: Commenting on other blogs and forums cannot help me gaining Page Rank.False! It depends on the way each site organizes its links. Some webmasters decide to use NoFollow attribute to tell the bots not to follow outbound links. You can check if this is the case by viewing the source of a page. However, many websites let bots follow the links, which means that if your signature or comment appears on a high Page Rank forum or blog you get a backlink. The rule is to post useful comments - never spam! Believe me, there are ways to punish spammers.
- Myth 10: If I own two sites and I link from one site to another, I will get penalised.False! If your sites are on similar topic, you can and you should link from one to another. I have five tourism related projects and they have all been interlinked for several years. In the end it has actually increased the Page Rank and I benefit from transferring traffic from one site to another. If the topic is too remote but you just want your visitors to see your other projects, use NoFollow attribute with your A HREF tag.
So, 10 myths about Google Page Rank have been busted and crashed. The main idea is to look at link development in a long-term scope. Backlinks should be gained gradually and webmasters should diversify their link building methods.
Please add your comments below!
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June 25th, 2008 on 4:35 am
Such a great post. I’ve been craving for pagerank because they penalized me before. Do you think I can still get it back?
June 25th, 2008 on 4:58 am
Thank you. What was your PR before? You have 24 outbound links from your index page. Are you sure all of them are clean and reliable? Then, I noticed, you have almost 7,000 backlinks. Probably you’ve gone too agressive - don’t go for more than 20 quality backlinks a week. If you’re expanding too fast, you can and you will get penalized.
June 25th, 2008 on 5:48 am
Hey,
It is a nice post. But you have made way too many smaller mistakes. Just to name a few:
PageRank (PR) and ‘Page Rank’ are not the same. Pagerank is the number you can see in your toolbar and ‘page rank’ is how your page rank.
This means that a few of your answers are not true.
#Myth 8
Your ranking is somehow based on your backlinks, not on your pagerank itself. The only pagerank that matters in this case is the pagerank of the pages which are linking to you.
#Myth 3
>False! No way! Content is considered when assigning >Page Rank. Don’t even try to prove me the opposite.
HaHa! I would like to prove you wrong!
First, I guess that you mean PR?
Otherwise it wouldn’t make much sense to put links on that page. PageRank is only (!!!) a calculation of the backlinks not your content! It isn’t me talking, it is Sergey Brin and Lawrence Page (also why it is named PageRank - from Lawrence Page)
I would suggest that you read “The Anatomy of a Large-Scale Hypertextual Web Search Engine” before posting such an article again. http://infolab.stanford.edu/~backrub/google.html
>don’t go for more than 20 quality backlinks a week. If >you’re expanding too fast, you can and you will get >penalized.
Google don’t penalize sites for having too many backlinks. Many people do think they use a filter if you are gaining too many backlinks too fast. What you are saying is that if I point 1000 links on your site, Google will penalize you. Hmm. I don’t think so.
But anyway, I think this is a good post for newbies to read.
Best wishes,
William
June 25th, 2008 on 6:07 am
Thank you for your comment.
It is quite OK to use Page Rank as long as I capitalize the first letters. Everyone can understand what I mean.
>>HaHa! I would like to prove you wrong!
The Formula DOES analyze the page. I have carried out several experiments with different sites/pages during the previous years, keeping the incoming links constant and playing only with content. It has gone from PR3 to 0 to 3 to 0. Can you call it a coincidence? Oh, no!
You won’t!
So accordingly to what you say, if I obtain 10 PR8 links for a link-farm, it would achieve PR6 on the next update /me rolling on the floor and laughing
I am not saying it penalizes for having many backlinks. I say that it penalizes for going too aggressive about building links. If you add 100 or more backlinks per week, you will harm your PR instead of gaining it. It is considered link spamming and it does negatively affect PR!
June 25th, 2008 on 6:07 am
nice post. thank you for sharing
June 25th, 2008 on 6:33 am
About #Mynth 3
In your article you didn’t talk about removing the content, but only adding links to óne page (not a site).
>So accordingly to what you say, if I obtain 10 PR8 >links for a link-farm, it would achieve PR6 on the >next update /me rolling on the floor and laughing
When did I ever say that? And I don’t really hope that is how you predict a Pagerank.
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I am not saying it penalizes for having many backlinks. I say that it penalizes for going too aggressive about building links. If you add 100 or more backlinks per week, you will harm your PR instead of gaining it. It is considered link spamming and it does negatively affect PR!
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So again, if I point 1000 spammy links on your site, so they are all pointing at you tommorow, Google will simply penalize you?
Amazing!
June 25th, 2008 on 7:01 am
my first pr were 2, then 3, then 1, then now 0.
yes, they were reliable. i’m not link farming.. but i usually comment on dofollow blogs. (like this)
June 25th, 2008 on 11:01 am
Great post, you obviously know what your talking about. Although I still just ignore the PR of my site as if I spend to much time working on ways to increase that I start loosing serps positions, and working on my serps usually increases my PR anyway
June 25th, 2008 on 10:49 pm
Nice tips! Now I hope I can get more PR on the next update
June 27th, 2008 on 3:52 pm
Good read! I’ll keep commenting on blogs then. As u say it can’t hurt.
June 29th, 2008 on 12:10 pm
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June 30th, 2008 on 3:29 am
Such a great post. WOW!
i appreciate the work u did. And i will try to follow these 10 myths and try to do what u said in order to have PR in my websites. Thanks!
June 30th, 2008 on 4:41 am
William, it happens if you try to misinterpret the things other people say
If you point 1000 crap links to me within 24 hours it might: a) harm me, b) harm me temporarily, c) have no effect at all - it all depends on some thing or another…
Security man, you already got PR2. Congrats, keep it rolling!!
June 30th, 2008 on 7:48 am
My lovely Opera hasn’t a plugin for PageRank. Ok, ok, I have to admit I sometimes use firefox which displays this green information.
June 30th, 2008 on 1:44 pm
Mel, it seems that Opera does have a Google PageRank plugin. Take a look here: http://widgets.opera.com/widget/4574/
And remember that it is never too late to start using a decent browser, I mean Internet Explorer.
July 2nd, 2008 on 3:09 pm
>Security man, you already got PR2. Congrats, keep it rolling!!
Well, I got PR6. But thanks and have a great day
July 15th, 2008 on 8:28 am
I didn’t know about the part that i should link out to big websites or articles, that was something that I was always fearing.
Now I will fell more comfortable linking to our social pages on bookmarking sites.
July 18th, 2008 on 5:48 am
wow great news, its tips will keep my PR as I wanted.
July 18th, 2008 on 7:59 am
I see there is a fiery debate over your hypothesis on digitalpoint forum… Not being an expert I can only say: thank you, I believe the vast majority of your ideas are accurate and will point me in the right direction. Thanks once again!
Ann of sweet-is-my-love.com
July 19th, 2008 on 1:08 am
William is correct on this one, google can not ever penelize you for eccessive links from link farms, it can’t ever penelize you for having your links anywhere because in theory you’re not the one placing the links but the website owner.
If what you are saying is true “and it’s not” I would be able to get my biggest competitor panelized by submitting his site to a million link farm sites. It doesn’t work that way.
On the other hand you are responsible for outgoing links from your site, and these are the links that can harm both you PageRank and page rank.
July 21st, 2008 on 11:36 am
Thanks everyone for the comments!
Dannyboy, William has made some good points about PageRank - I cannot disagree. However, if you follow a certain pattern (N number of links during X number of days plus some other factors, which I will leave to myself to keep the bad guys guessing) you can (or at least you could some six months ago) harm your competitor’s search engine rankings temporarily. Temporarily means that his rankings drop for a month and then get restored.
It is very unlikely that someone could make a prolonged impact on competitor’s search engine rankings but it HAS been done before and I presume there are still some loopholes. However, I would like to say hooray! to Google as it has made lives of bad guys really miserable.
July 26th, 2008 on 5:09 pm
I personally thought that was a great post my site went up to PR1 i was shocked becuase I had produced so many links but i think this post helped me a lot
July 30th, 2008 on 10:51 pm
I found my experiences support debunking your top 10 myths - I’m curious many people I know including me dropped in this last upate (2 just barely PR5’s went to PR4s) 2 other PR4’s stayed the same - but I’m wondering if you know if:
1) Blogrolls devalued? total or partial
2)Directory links devalued? total or partial
3)Same for commenting on do follow blogs?
We’ve heard so much about Googles disdain for paid links and even those Directories that are human edited don’t seem to be passing PR in links - am I missing something - I’ve looked for posts on the topic - havent’ found any good one’s yet. thanks!
August 1st, 2008 on 4:48 pm
Wow these are really great tips, some great myths solved, I can use these tips to benefit me, thanks!
October 7th, 2008 on 4:17 am
Thanks for the post it answered a few of my questions. Admin can you please send to my email what happens if you b** a p*** link and the people you bo***t from don’t put a nofollow tag by accident will you get penalized?
October 27th, 2008 on 10:01 am
Superb post - thanks for sharing!
November 6th, 2008 on 2:42 am
There is more reason to comment than ever before!